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#23: Why The Pop-Culture World Continually Disappoints Us

We're kidding about that title, at least a little bit. The problem comes with getting our hopes up because something has so much potential, like the film Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy or the Jay-Z/Kanye West collaboration, Watch The Throne. One is in theaters, the other just wrapped up a tour, and in separate segments we basically talk about how each one measured against its potential. Then there's a pair of discussions about strange rises to prominence: the one that takes a no-name singer-songwriter from Wisconsin to a slew of Grammy nominations (Bon Iver), the other a film that sat on a shelf for six years until critics demanded the studio pay attention to it (Margaret). Not heard: The crazy coughing fits Kyle had while we recorded, though his voice is pretty much gone by the end of the Bon Iver segment.

:00 - Intro
:47 - Tasha Robinson and guest Dave Chen of slashfilm.com talk about wasted
potential in Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy
12:07 - Kyle Ryan, Nathan Rabin, and Erik Adams do a post-mortem on the Jay-Z/Kanye West Watch The Throne tour
26:42 - Steven Hyden talks about Bon Iver's surprising rise to fame (and Kyle's voice all but goes out)
37:15 - Scott Tobias, Keith Phipps, and Nathan talk about Margaret's strange road to the box office and year-end lists.
48:48 - Extracurricular Activities with Marcus Gilmer, Tasha Robinson, and Kyle 

Related stuff:
The Tobolowsky Files
Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy
ReasDis #7
Watch The Throne
Bon Iver, Bon Iver
The Best Music of 2011
The Best Films of 2011
Rocket City Rednecks [NatGeo]
Minna Bromberg [Kickstarter]
American Splendor and More American Splendor [Amazon] 

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