AVC: There have been increasingly longer breaks between records. It was six years between Hello Nasty and To The 5 Boroughs. It's only been two since 5 Boroughs, so is it going to be a while before you release another one?
AH: Oh, it's going to be a while. I'm not gonna lie to you. I think we'll hit around average, probably, our newer average.
AVC: Newer average?
AH: Yeah, before the average was a couple years, maybe two, three.
AY: It was three—three years.
AH: Now the sort of average we're leaning toward is like a five- or six-year period.
AY: The average has gone up.
AH: We'll be right around the new average.
AY: It's a mean average.
AH: "Mean average," you said?
AY: It's just some kind of math term I wanted to use. I don't really know what it means.
AVC: Do you think it will have a singular hip-hop sound like To The 5 Boroughs, or be more expansive, like Check Your Head or Ill Communication?
AY: Probably change it up, but I don't want to reveal any secrets that we don't have yet.
MD: I think it's time for the band to go dark.
AVC: Like goth?AY: I was more in like a CIA sense: "We're going dark!" [Laughs.]
MD: That too. I was thinking goth, like eyeliner.
AH: See, with a producer, you have to give extra money to that person, you know what I mean? They're throwing their opinions in.
MD: I think Burt Bacharach—the man's clearly a well-established songwriter behind a lot of incredible songs and productions.
AY: Did he work with Dolly Partner [sic]?
AH: At some point.
MD: I can't imagine he has not worked with Dolly Partner.
AVC: He's not too young, though, and you mentioned your young writing team. Obviously, it's a youth-oriented market…
MD: Yeah, I've got one of the best names—I can't say her name, but she's from the show Family Man. She's on my writing staff. [Laughs.]
AVC: You come from a punk background, and punk and hip-hop are relatively new genres. There aren't really a lot of "founding fathers" who have hit advanced age…
AY: Why you gotta say it like that?
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