When Wu-Tang Clan exploded onto hip-hop with 1993's Enter The Wu-Tang (36 Chambers), rapper Ghostface Killah was overshadowed by the even-more-colorful likes of Method Man, Ol' Dirty Bastard, and mastermind/super-producer RZA. Ghostface's 1996 debut Ironman was well-received, and his numerous lyrical assists on Raekwon's Only Built 4 Cuban Linx helped make it an instant classic. But Ghostface didn't fully escape his groupmates' shadows until their golden age had passed. Three memorable albums followed Ironman, and Ghostface recently released the mind-bending, psychedelic Fishscale. He also recently addressed 36 questions from The A.V. Club—very, very rapidly.
The A.V. Club: What's your favorite part of touring?
Ghostface Killah: Nothing. Just performing.
AVC: What can you say about the new album?
GK: What do you want to know about it?
AVC: What was the making of it like?
GK: It was all right. It was like any other album. You get the beats, you write to them, you go in the studio and lay it down. Hopefully a song comes out sounding good. If it comes out sounding good, you put it to the side with the rest of the other good ones, and you try to decide which ones you're gonna use on the album.
AVC: You worked with some pretty big producers on the album, like Pete Rock. Did you meet with them, or work together on the tracks?
GK: Nah. One of the guys at Def Jam would just come and give me beats, and I'd just go through a bunch of beats, and that was it. I met my man MF Doom on the road, somebody gave me some beats from him, and that's how I got his beats. And that was it.
AVC: How's the album with MF Doom going?
GK: It's going great. I gave him like, five or six songs, and I'll do more songs with him, so we can complete that album and that'll be it right there.
AVC: Is it true that you listened to hundreds or thousands of beats for The Pretty Toney Album?
GK: Yeah, because I didn't really have that many good beats coming my way. I'll do that once in a while, where I'll go through a bunch of beats, see what I want to use, what I'm not gonna use. A lot of people send you garbage and you just listen to their CD for nothing. That's it.
AVC: The Pretty Toney Album was credited to Ghostface, and Fishscale is credited to Ghostface Killah. What's the difference?
GK: It don't even matter. It's just names. People always get it twisted, you know, "Is this the Ghostface Killah?" Man, it's whatever-whatever, you can name me Shithead if you want. I don't give a fuck about all that. It's real, man. A name is a name, and I make music. My niggas know my voice even without the name. That's what it is.
AVC: Why put the album with Doom out on Nature Sounds instead of Def Jam?
GK: I don't know. That's Doom's album, that's not mine. That's Doom's thing. I'm just running with him, whatever you want to do. I don't care, he could put it out on God's Records. Whatever-whatever, man. As long as it's out.
AVC: Will the Wu-Tang Clan be working on an album anytime soon?
GK: Next year, sometime. We just gotta pick the months when we want to record, and it'll be on.
AVC: Did you get a chance to know Jay Dee when he worked on your album?
GK: No. I haven't met Jay Dee. I haven't done nothing. I [just] listened to his beats. I liked them and I just wrote to them. I did it and that was it. I wished he had had a chance to hear what I did to his music.
AVC: You've criticized the song "Laffy Taffy" in concert. Do you have something against Southern hip-hop, or just that song in particular?
GK: I don't got no problem with nobody. I was just telling people, this is what you all grew up on, this is what you all are stuck on right now, but this is what I dig, this is where I come from, right here. So I threw on "Eric B Is President." It's two different rap eras. It just happened to be that I got ahold of that record.
AVC: Who are your favorite rappers?
GK: A lot of old-school rappers. Rakim, Kool G Rap, Big Daddy Kane, Biz Markie, Slick Rick, Doug E. Fresh, Public Enemy, even NWA when they came out with their first album. Brand Nubian, A Tribe Called Quest, Gang Starr. All the Nice & Smooth. The whole list. It just goes on. The world was really, back then, rockin' the Fat Boys, Run DMC, Special Ed. Back then, everything was cool. Steady B from Philly. It was all good. All the old school. The whole Juice Crew. Roxanne Shante, EPMD, MC Lyte.
AVC: You've worked with a lot of great producers. Are there any that you'd like to work with that you haven't?
GK: Marley Marl. Probably DJ Premier. Dr. Dre here and there. Pharrell. That's about it.
AVC: The press release for Fishscale says you stopped smoking weed two years ago. What was the thinking behind that, and how has it worked out for you so far?
GK: Nothing. Sometimes you gotta just chill. You gotta chill your thinking process. Mine's just a little more clear now. But it's all good. Sometimes you gotta relax some stuff you've been doing for a long time.
AVC: Do you think it affected the sound or the vibe of the new album?
GK: I don't know, because I always had the sound in me. It's more or less if I get the music in my head, I know how to get the vibe in the sound. Other than that, it is what it is.
AVC: Why do you think Bulletproof Wallets wasn't as well-received as your other albums?
GK: Because it didn't get marketed and promoted right. And I got a lot of songs tooken off of it. That's all.
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