Harrison Ford is a slam-dunk late-night interview, his droll humor and stone-faced inability to give a shit leading to all-time great sit-downs with hosts who can keep up, like David Letterman. Watching him shit on Blade Runner 2049 co-star Ryan Gosling has been a blast, but at some point, the facade must crack, leading to this truly delightful interview with ITV’s Alison Hammond.

Hammond admits up front that she’s never seen the original film, setting a loose tone that leads to a couple travel bottles of whiskey getting cracked open, Ford shouting a Jerry Maguire quote, a couple fourth-wall-breaking flip-outs from Gosling, and the sort of delightfully unhinged conversational dead-ends we typically expect from a Space Ghost interview. Who knows if they were all jetlagged and exhausted or just truly inspired by the, um, gorgeous London weather; the typical promotional beats break down, letting you see Ford actually having what the rest of us would consider “fun.”

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He still shits all over Gosling, though. Some things never change.