Those of you currently doodling in your notebooks and daydreaming about Stranger Things sprawling out into a multi-decade saga should adjust your expectations: The show isn’t even going to make it into the ’90s. In a new interview with Entertainment Weekly, series creators Matt and Ross Duffer discuss the future of their Netflix hit heading into season two, indicating that they’ve got a four or five season arc in mind for the show. As Matt puts it, “I want it to have a really finite ending. I don’t want it to be one of those shows that runs out of gas and they lose it because they’re losing interest. You want to end when you’re on top.”