Watch Mark Hamill basically pitch evil Luke Skywalker to J.J. Abrams in 2005

The third and final trailer for Star Wars: The Force Awakens premiered last night and thousands upon thousands of the Star Wars faithful began participating in their very own Celebrity Death Pool. Nobody was safe; rumors of the demise of Chewie, Han Solo, Luke Skywalker, and even our new heroes (which no doubt was a result of the #BoycottStarWarsVii dopes) flooded internet message boards. Even those who don’t think that Luke Skywalker is going to be struck down (and possibly become more powerful than anyone could imagine) have a morbid fascination with the Jedi Master turning heel. Some even think that Luke—in a J.J. Abrams mystery box conspiracy—is Kylo Ren, even though numerous set photos and interviews have confirmed that Adam Driver will be portraying the new villain. “That’s not true, that’s impossible,” exclaimed fans as they searched their feelings, knowing it not to be true.
That being said, the concept of Luke Skywalker turning to the dark side of the Force is hardly a new concept. Dark Horse Comics explored it in the terrific Dark Empire series, and Mark Hamill himself recounted pitching the idea to George Lucas during the production of Return Of The Jedi on a 2005 episode of IFC’s Dinner For Five: