As host, co-creator, and contributing producer of Travel Channel’s Bizarre Foods franchise, Andrew Zimmern has had the chance to travel the world, and eat weird, tasty foods in the process. With his new show, The Zimmern List, Zimmern is hoping to make a food show that doesn’t rely on gimmicks, but instead focuses on our relationship with food and highlights people doing amazing culinary work all around the country. We talked to him about the food cities he thinks get too much coverage and the food cities that should be on everyone’s list.