Andrew Garfield gets affectingly real about acting, tells Stephen Colbert he fibbed his way into a musical

Telling Colbert about Nichols’ own words of encouragement for him, Garfield—deftly dropping in and out of various accents, as is his way—related how the iconic director once reassured the ever-insecure young actor, “Dear boy, I’m not worried about you, because you’re just like me. You don’t think highly of yourself at all.” Citing his Nichols-approved gift for “divine dissatisfaction” with his own efforts to achieve something “perfect—a spiritual height we will never get to,” Garfield cut his reminiscence short since, as he told Colbert, “I don’t want to cry.” Continuing in that heartfelt and thoughtful vein, however, Garfield responded to Colbert’s questions about his acting philosophy by describing his incongruously moving ritual of spitting on the hallowed Broadway boards before appearing in the 2017 production of Angels In America. Speaking of his responsibility to all the “the gay brothers and sisters who, you know, died and fought during the AIDS epidemic,” Garfield made a rather touching case that the whole spitting tradition involves a promise to “the ancestors” that he’s prepared to leave “all of myself here, even the less pretty parts.”

Garfield also stretched his endearing Broadway enthusiasm to Colbert and his Late Show team, telling the the clearly-touched host that Colbert, Batiste, and their crew “leave a little space in the top of the auditorium for something divine to move as you come in in here.” But enough off all that sincerity, as Garfield also confessed how being an actor is also all about bullshitting your way into a job, even if that means straight-up lying to a Tony Award-harvesting legend about being able to sing. To be fair, it was all the masseuse’s fault, as Garfield told how one Greg Miele, apparently a masseuse to all the stars, talked up Garfield’s untested singing talents to Lin-Manuel Miranda one day as the massage therapist was really putting the hurt on the Hamilton creator in the run-up to making tick, tick, BOOM!

Garfield, informed by Miele of his supposed Ariana Grande-meets-Pavarotti pipes in a phone call after that flesh-pounding meeting, ascertained that shooting wouldn’t be taking place for the better part of a year before bald-facedly assuring Miranda that, of course Andrew Garfield has the training and skills to essay a famous musical theater lead. Colbert commiserated, explaining how he’d once assured a director that, of course, he could understudy for pal (and Late Show Peabody Award presenter) Steve Carell in a role requiring a mastery of a particular brass instrument. “Necessity is the mother of…,” Garfield opined understandingly, before Colbert chimed in with his own version of the saying, “… employment.”

The Eyes Of Tammy Faye comes out on September 17, while tick, tick, BOOM! hits theaters later this year.