In the interest of saving the messy readers among you some time: No, Anne Heche did not spill any tea about her ex, Ellen DeGeneres. Maybe? Honestly, it’s kind of hard to tell exactly what she spilled in her recent interview with Mr. Warburton magazine, which is not, as far as we can tell, a magazine about the actor Patrick Warburton. When asked about her prior relationship with DeGeneres, whom she dated in the late ’90s, Heche said it was “a beautiful part of my life and one that I wear with honor.” The topic naturally turns to the controversy surrounding DeGeneres and her long-running daytime talk show—the producers of which have been accused by numerous former and current employees of creating a toxic work environment marked by allegations of harassment and abuse. Regarding the allegations, Heche definitely had more to say, noting that she hasn’t spoken to her ex “in years,” but she’s inclined to “listen to the people who have.” Per Vulture, Heche continued: