Harsh: How a scathing review made The A.V. Club part of Legends Of Tomorrow
People behind The CW superhero spin-off explain how this very site entered the Arrowverse

No CW show ever seemed like it was meant to be the biggest thing in the world. As popular as Riverdale or Supernatural were at the height of their powers, they were still CW shows, the kind you don’t watch live but rather binge over a weekend on Netflix. They weren’t trying to appeal to everyone; they were trying to appeal to the people who got it, the people who were already predisposed, for whatever reason, to fall head-over-heels in love with whatever that show was doing.
And that was never more true than it was for DC’s Legends Of Tomorrow. A spin-off of a spin-off of the Batman Begins-inspired Arrow, the show seemed to require so much homework that it never had a chance to be the next Riverdale or Supernatural. But it still managed to build a head-over-heels fanbase that carried it through seven seasons of stories about a found family of time-traveling superheroes who took it upon themselves to save history from aliens and immortal warlords and demons and fantastical creatures.
One of the things that made Legends Of Tomorrow special, though, was that it had worked hard to earn the love of its fans. The show’s first season, the one that was most explicitly set up by the events of Arrow and The Flash, was—to put it charitably—lousy. It was the kind of (mostly) serious superhero action with soapy CW drama that its forebearers had found success with. But with a whole team of heroes to worry about, there wasn’t enough time or budget for any of it to get the attention it needed. By all rights, Legends Of Tomorrow could’ve or should’ve ended there, but over its second and third seasons, it shifted into a different kind of show, one that would use superhero action and soapy drama as seasoning rather than the whole dish, embracing its status as an outsider and becoming a phenomenal high-concept comedy series in the process.
But, of course, Legends Of Tomorrow isn’t the only thing to reject the boring path to mainstream success in favor of embracing outsider status to better serve a more loyal and dedicated fanbase. Beginning life as the back-page supplement to a satirical newspaper and later setting up a home base in Chicago—a city that prides itself on rejecting the mainstream appeal of the coasts—The A.V. Club built its reputation on being a website that preferred to be a little outside. Rather than catering exclusively to the Hollywood scene or to hip New Yorkers, it was made for the regular folks who wanted to read a funny Onion headline and then check out a thoughtful take on an obscure David Lynch project.
So it makes perfect sense that Legends Of Tomorrow and The A.V. Club would have a shared affinity for each other. We are who we want to be and we like who and what we want to like, and we want to build spaces for people who feel the same way. We covered Legends throughout its entire seven-season run here at The A.V. Club, with reviews of every episode and occasional essays on absurd moments that went viral (yes, there’s one where classic comics villain Gorilla Grodd attacks a young Barack Obama), so you’d be hard-pressed to find any more thorough chronicle of Legends’ transformation from—as we once put it—“bad superhero show to best superhero show.” Like with everyone else in its head-over-heels fanbase, it worked its way into our hearts to become something worth loving.
The funny thing, though, is that Legends felt the same way about The A.V. Club. In the season-four episode “Wet Hot American Bummer,” Caity Lotz’s time-traveling spaceship captain Sara Lance is laying in bed with her girlfriend, Ava (Jes Macallan), enjoying some downtime by watching a terrible horror movie called Swamp Thaaaang. (You can watch this opening scene on Netflix—season 4, episode 4, around the 1:20 mark.) Sara wonders where this movie she’s never heard of came from, since she’s a horror fan, so Ava decides to figure out what’s going on by looking up a review of Swamp Thaaaang from The A.V. Club:
Ava: “Okay, Swamp Thaaaang. Apparently there are four As in the name because it’s the fourth film in the franchise. The A.V. Club gave it a D+, saying, ‘the production design is as lazy as the action staging.’”
Sara: “Harsh.”