After losing two sons, Nick Cave says commiseration with fans has been a doorway to healing
"People say, 'How can you go on tour?' But for me it’s the other way around. How could I not?"

Nick Cave can’t just move on. The musician, known primarily for his work with his band The Bad Seeds, has faced unexpected loss in a rare and bottomless manner: he has watched two of his sons die less than a decade apart.
In 2015, Cave’s 15-year-old son Arthur was killed after falling from a cliff near their family home in England. Then, this past May, his 31-year-old son Jethro died from causes that haven’t been publicly shared. It’s a type of grief that can’t be spoken or theorized by someone who hasn’t experienced it, and one that Cave says has been important to express, grapple with, and ultimately share. Cave’s entire creative process changed after he lost Arthur, he says—it’s a momentous shift that is partially chronicled in “Faith, Hope and Carnage,” a new book of interviews between Cave and journalist Seán O’Hagan, due out September 20.
“I try to write from the point of view,” Cave tells The New York Times, “that something can happen to your life that is absolutely shattering that can also be redemptive and beautiful.”
Although albums like 2019's haunting Ghosteen lay bare Cave’s grief in a luminous and affecting manner, much of his personal expression recently has come through The Red Hand Files, the online column Cave started in 2018.