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GS: And of course, Roman was the only one to do it.

DG: Ultimately though, [Kendall] is the one with the correct business, if not human, instinct, which is that they do have a lot of eyes on them and they have to do the right thing. It felt like it could be some sort of growth, but I am also expecting a relapse.

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GS: I am truly frightened for what’s to come with Kendall.

SG: I do want to point out Jeremy Strong’s incredible expression in the airport with the moon behind him. In the very final shot of “Connor’s Wedding,” when he’s standing there watching Logan being brought out, there’s a visible sigh of relief almost. Like he’s free. Not really, but in a way he is.

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GS: It’s true. They kind of all are, in a way.

SG: That one scene says so much because he knows what’s coming next, but also this mammoth person in his life is gone and he can somewhat start over.

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DG: His immediate reaction of “I can’t forgive you” says the same thing.

SG: Absolutely. All of their immediate reactions are so apt for who they are as people. I wrote about it in extreme detail, but even Shiv’s “I can’t have that yet” is so full of pain in ways I don’t think anyone realizes. Damn you, Succession. I am not here for tears, I just want to laugh at their miserable wealthy lives. But the performances won’t let you.

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We’ve ignored Alan Ruck—much like the Roy siblings.

GS: Connor is next! But I have one more thing. As I mentioned before this chat, last night’s episode did not make me cry in reaction to Logan’s actual death—that’d be like crying over Rupert Murdoch—but it was spurred by the children’s reactions and ultimately the actors’ performances. Logan’s death, if anything, is interesting in terms of what will come next, but my sadness lies in these grieving, fucked-up adults.

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SG: I agree 100 percent. I don’t really care about Logan dying—I’ll miss what Brian Cox brings to the show—but the way all the actors teamed up to deliver such an affecting performance is why we’re all processing.

GS: But yes, Connor Roy. I think it’s fitting for him to come into the discussion now because of how exactly the episode played out last night. Alan Ruck has been delivering excellence when it comes to Connor for a while now, but between this episode and the last, he’s just been a powerhouse. He’s worrying about his “loony cake” and then, when he learns Logan died, his first words are, “He didn’t even like me.”

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J. Smith-Cameron, Kieran Culkin
J. Smith-Cameron, Kieran Culkin
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SG: The loony cake thing deserves its own breakdown, so I won’t get into it here, but it’s so funny to me that he’s holding onto a memory from his mother’s tragedy so tightly when he learns about Logan’s death.

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GS: I like Connor’s arc the rest of the episode, because I think with Logan’s death he’s able to face some of the realities of his life, like the nature of his relationship with Willa. The façade kind of drops. He’s no longer putting on a front in an effort to appease Logan.

SG: Yeah, was it the healthiest reaction of all in that sense? Not that any depiction of grief has to be “healthy,” per se.

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DG: The thing about Connor is that I feel like he’s always known what time it is with his relationship to Logan. Logan doesn’t take him seriously, and Connor doesn’t see him as much more than an ATM, even if he wishes he could see him more. Connor knows that he’s been the parent figure to the younger siblings. They’ve been chasing something Connor has known for a while they’re never gonna get.

SG: I feel like that’s true to some extent. It’s evident if we compare how Alan Ruck reacts to Logan’s health scare in season one to now. But I think deep down, unfortunately, all of them do yearn for his approval, even if Connor does it the least at this point.

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GS: That’s true. That’s why I particularly liked the exchange between Connor and Roman, because we know how much he was a surrogate parent for Rome. I think Connor will be finally able to walk away from it though. At least that’s my hope for him.

SG: Gabrielle, yes, great catch. Kieran’s arm hug was another incredible choice.

DG: Mind you, Logan died in the process of missing Connor’s wedding. I wouldn’t cry either!

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GS: Yeah, Logan really gave Connor one last big “fuck off.”

SG: He shouldn’t! His siblings didn’t even invite him for a final goodbye.

GS: So sad. Even as much as Connor waxes on about not needing love, everyone needs it.

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Meanwhile, everyone else was inciting so much chaos in this episode.

SG: Yeah, I was living for everything happening on the plane—except for Logan’s demise. Who was your favorite non-Roy, performance- or reaction-wise?

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GS: Gerri? A queen. Kerry? I lost it. As someone who awkwardly laughs their way through pain, I related to Kerry. Like, that would be so me: “Isn’t this crazy?”

But, in terms of the greater Waystar-Royco posse, Hugo (Fisher Stevens) was cracking me up.

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DG: I have to give it up for Justine Lupe. As Keiran Culkin pointed out, Willa has basically been kidnapped into a gilded cage, and her delivery of “I think ... cancel” was so layered. Everyone else is in crisis mode and for a minute she was kind of having the best day of her life. And it had nothing to do with her wedding.

GS: Justine Lupe recently said Willa gives off intense Scorpio vibes, and I have to agree.

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SG: As a fellow Scorpio, you know I do too.

GS: I think Willa does care for Connor, and he needs her in a lot of transactional ways as well. I think she maneuvers that space very well.

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SG: I will say, David Rasche as Karl was the breather I needed. He was hilarious in his line deliveries. “Chuckles the Clown” is accurate as hell, but the way he said, “He’s heavily fucking delayed?” with that eyebrow raise. Yeah, I had to pause to process and laugh. He’s known and worked alongside this man for years and years. Succession really gives its supporting players a lot of leeway even with small appearances, and I think Rasche made the most of his as he witnesses the aftermath from the luxury of a private plane.

Peter Friedman, David Rasche, Dagmara Dominczyk, Matthew Macfadyen
Peter Friedman, David Rasche, Dagmara Dominczyk, Matthew Macfadyen
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GS: Ugh, Karl. Nearly everyone on that plane knew Logan for longer than most of the kids have been alive.

SG: He’s Succession at its finest when it comes to snarky humor when it’s least applicable.

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GS: I think the same goes for Hugo, who was just fluttering around the kids as they’re processing their father’s death. One of the funniest throwaway moments for me was when he walks up to the kids holding a bottle of San Pellegrino with the label out like a sommelier before quickly doing a roundabout because they don’t want him near them.

SG: A moment of silence and respect for Scott Nicholson, who stole the episode with mere seconds of screen time. He was just standing there all alone at the airport once the plane landed. Absolutely no one is ever going to check on him and how he’s feeling, when two episodes ago Logan called him his “best pal” over dinner. It might be the saddest moment for me, but Nicholson got no time and expressed everything in that one shot.

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DG: Also goes without saying, but Matthew Macfadyen. His maneuvering during the phone calls was just so good. I will say: Tom is really in a pickle now!

GS: Tom is in the hot seat now, for sure. I think it was very telling when he said he lost his “protector.”

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SG: Oh god, Matthew. The chuckle after he disses Greg again and then immediately pivots to crying and going “I’m not okay?” How dare he.

DG: Make sure this news does not leak, but make sure everyone knows I was here. That’s Tom’s whole M.O.

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SG: I think what Matthew nailed was the tough balance of “Is he sad about Logan at all?” or just grieving his place in the company now? Where does he stand?

GS: Especially as he and Shiv remain on the ropes.

SG: He was so gentle and soft with the siblings, and Shiv asks him, “Are you being nice to me?” Matthew was playing Tom delicately, and it was brilliant because he then asks Greg to delete files and shit.

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GS: Hearing your dad died from your estranged husband? Brutal.

SG: Correct.

DG: Well, because also the timeline of these episodes. I believe Shiv told Tom she wanted a divorce about two days ago? I’m not sold on that still happening.

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SG: Yeah, they may stretch that out for a while now.

GS: I know, right? I will be very surprised, because I could totally see Tom coming to Shiv’s aid through all of this, even if it’s out of self-preservation. And Shiv ultimately needs that.

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SG: Sorry, one last shoutout to J. Smith-Cameron, who went through a host of emotions (rage, sadness, disappointment) once Roman walks away after their initial talk about her firing. Gerri making the most of it! And then she rightfully does not comfort Roman. The slime-puppy hive got lots of depressing material in episode three.

GS: I want Gerri to have it all. What an amazing episode, this is what TV is all about, baby. I’m so scared for what’s next.

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DG: Agreed. To be honest, I haven’t really been sold on Succession in a while—I’ve always thought it was fine, but not always capital-G Great—but this episode was Great.

SG: I’ll process the “it was fine” line later, but I’m glad you agree this was great. We’d be hard-pressed to find someone who didn’t think so. The Emmys are going to be so much fun this year, and it’s all because Logan Roy died.