Who better to talk to a comedian than another comedian, someone who knows the craft from the inside out? That’s the premise of podcasts like Marc Maron’s WTF and Scott Aukerman’s Comedy Bang! Bang!, though those shows take considerably different approaches to the subject matter. Recently, Vulture had the bright idea of having Parks And Recreation graduate Ben Schwartz talk with Mr. Show veteran Paul F. Tompkins, just as Tompkins’ puppet-based political comedy show, No, You Shut Up!, was about to return for its fourth season on Fusion. Both Schwartz and Tompkins are closely associated with Comedy Bang! Bang!, and their conversation revolves around podcasting, improvisation, Hamilton, and the potential minefield of reading YouTube comments. Schwartz seems prepared to take the conversation in a jokier direction, even employing some silly voices along the way, but Tompkins remains straightforward and earnest in his responses. Along the way, the article reveals some interesting tidbits about Tompkins, like the fact that he’s covered David Bowie’s “Space Oddity” and that he is profoundly disappointed by his middle name, Francis.