This post and video reveal plot points for the latest episode of The Walking Dead.

Negan on The Walking Dead has always been an over-the-top character with no real emotional depth. But this Sunday’s episode saw him take a step forward, with viewers learning a bit more about his backstory and Jeffrey Dean Morgan dropping the cartoonish shtick and trying for something more grounded. Did it work? A.V. Clubbers Josh Modell and Alex McLevy seem to think so. In this clip from our Facebook Live discussion of this week’s episode, they discuss the episode and if this new Negan will last.